I was shocked after reading about the Europeans and there stupidity.
As a former resident of Israel I must say that I never knew about it beside the French.

I was born in the US and moved to Israel with my mother and brother. As we are Jewish this was a right choose so we could return to our home land and live without racism.

Israel is a wonderful and beutiful country. It is a must for everyone to visit, Jewish or Christian.

But I must talk about the Palastinians.

These people are pure terrorists. Plain and simple. Yes, I am grouping them together because it is true. They are raised from the moment they are born to hate Israel and Jews. They murder innocent men, women and children in the name of their god. What kind of people can do something like that. I have witnessed these bombings over and over agian to the point that I left the country.

Alot of news footage that is shown in Israel showing how there are summer camps for Palistinian children, funded by Hamas, have children parading around in Hamas clothing and wearing bombs around there chests and holding guns yelling "Death to Israel, Death to US". And yet this footage is not shown in the US.

People on this side of the world have no idea what is going on in Israel. The hardship it is in right now is unbelivable. People have no money to buy food and some that are homeless now thanks to the arabs. Every penny goes to the army to protect against the terrorists. And yet, we are the threat?!?!




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on Nov 11, 2003
I have come to the conclusion that European anti-semitism is based on ignorance. People simply don't know why Israel exists, how it came to be, and why it is wrong to constantly attack civilian women and children. I don't know why they lack that information, I guess many people do not want to know. They are much more confortable "knowing" that Israel is a threat to world peace because, presumably, dealing with Jews is easier than to deal with terrorists. But sometimes the easy way out is not the correct way.

Did you (Americans) know that the police have to guard Jewish buildings in Berlin? When (some) Europeans tell you that anti-semitism does not exist in Europe or that it is Israel's fault that it does, do they mention that the flats of rabbis need police protection around the clock? Do they mention that for some reason anti-Israel sentiment, which many claim is not anti-semitism, unloads itself on German Jews who have nothing to do with Israel other than their religion? Please keep that in mind because I fear Europeans will not.

P.S.: "deathmate", can you email me please.
on Nov 11, 2003
"....so we could return to our home land and live without racism."

"These people are pure terrorists. Plain and simple. Yes, I am grouping them together because it is true."

No wonder god is unhappy.
on Nov 11, 2003
I do not know what G-d thinks about the situation or whether He is happy about it or not.

But I do believe that G-d's happiness is probably not related to whether someone calls terrorists terrorists or not.
on Nov 11, 2003
Dunno. Admittedly I was raised Catholic and don't know all that much about Judism but I was taught that compassion and forgiveness are righteous virtues.
on Nov 11, 2003
Jeremy, you are right. Compassion and forgiveness are righteous (although Christian) values.

However, where would they apply here? Are the Arabs righteous in that sense? Why don't you consider the Jews righteous in that sense? Israel could harm the Palestinians a lot more than it does. What do you think inspires Israeli caution?

What do you want Israel to do? Forgive the Palestinians for killing Israeli children and give up defending against them? Let the Palestinians kill every single Israeli? How compassionate is that? And who could forgive you for allowing that to happen?

If there is anything your Christian value can teach you, maybe it is that compassion and forgivess are not to be demanded from others, but to be practiced. How do you feel compassion for people who gladly kill themselves just to take a few Israeli children with them? How do you do that?

on Nov 11, 2003
JeremyG, if someone were to punch you in the nose, would you just stand there and wait for them to stop in order to take the righteous high road? How many punches would it take for you to decide the person will just keep punching? How many terrorist acts do the people of Israel have to endure to be able to call terrorists terrorists. It is always easier to tell someone else to show compassion and forgiveness when it isn't happening to you. I think you are showing a lack of compassion by brushing over what deathmate is saying.

Did you feel compassion for the terrorists of 911? I surely didn't and don't.
on Nov 11, 2003
Actually I do feel LOTS of compassion for them. I think it's incredibly sad that someone could be so misled by their religion. Actually not even their religion as there religion is just fine. But mislead socially by people who pervert that religion.

If someone punched me in the face I would break his arm and cry inside while doing it.

How do I feel compassion for people who gladly kill themselves just to take a few Israli children? I dig deep. Thats the great quest.

Incidentally I'm not Christian, I was just raised such. I have adopted much less militant spiritual beliefs. And i shouldnt have spouted the god comment, it came out more harsh and pointed than was intended, I was just apalled by the hypocracy.
on Nov 11, 2003
Jeremy,

appalled by _what_ hypocrisy? Calling terrorists such is not hypocritical. It would be hypocritical if Israel condoned the same behaviour that the PLO has decided to condone.

It seems to me that you are appalled by something else. But what?
on Nov 11, 2003
I think your post might be slightly biased deathmate. It may be true that from the moment a palestinian child is born, he is taught to hate the Israelis, but at the same time, I think an Israeli child is taught the same type of doctrine; Palestinians are terrorists. The problem in the middle east certainly is not a jewish state amongst the arabs, it is Ariel Sharon. He is far to aggressive for the role that needs to be played. Give hmi an inch and he takes a mile. He pretends to try and work with the Palestinians, but all-in-all, Ariel Sharon is woeking toward teh destruction of his nation. If the US lets him off of their leash, the middle east will blow up.
on Nov 11, 2003
Palestinians ARE terrorists. Not all of them of course but they're the ones intentionally targeting women and children with nail bombs.
on Nov 11, 2003
"It seems to me that you are appalled by something else. But what?"

Appalled by the hypocracy that someone would return to their homeland to live without rasicsm and immediately follow that with racist remarks.
on Nov 11, 2003
"Israel could harm the Palestinians a lot more than it does. What do you think inspires Israeli caution?"

More?? How? Occupying their land and condemning them to live behind a wall? Taking the best land, water resources, demolishing their houses and forcing them to live among the rats in refugee camps? Bombing civilian buildings with american rockets fired from american helicopters and F-18's ?? Killing dozens of them in Chatila & Sabra (palestinian towns)?

CAUTION????? WTF?
on Nov 11, 2003
Jewish: Eye for eye, tooth for tooth... (remember the muslims think that too... they are religiously obliged to respond to every attack with what they consider is a fair response).

Christian: If you are hit, show the other cheek.

We might be called weak. But peace is the only way to solve things. This is a moral principle that cannot be challenged. Israel must stop inmediately the invasion, construction of the wall, and return to the legitimate borders. Cease too the agressions and retaliations. Palestinian must stop inmediately their attacks too. Unless this spiral of violence finishes there is nothing to do there, only pain and anger will prevail.

Israel is a threat to world peace because they have the military strenght and the mad leadership it needs to become such. Palestine is only a threat to Israel.

on Nov 11, 2003
What do you want Israel to do? Forgive the Palestinians for killing Israeli children and give up defending against them? Let the Palestinians kill every single Israeli? How compassionate is that? And who could forgive you for allowing that to happen?

Then again, what do you want the palestinians to do? Forgive Israel for killing palestinian women and children and give up retaliating against them? Let Israel kill every single palestinian?

Actually I say both sides have to to reach peace. Both sides are to blame in that conflict and both sides will have to give in to solve it.

I know that many people here like to think that its just the good israelites against the bad palestinians, but its just not as simple as that.
on Nov 11, 2003

Christian: If you are hit, show the other cheek.
Well some time ago it was if its not Christian kill it and take its land.
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